Hey Louis CK,
You make a good point in your stand up routine. Actually you make a really good point. Men are the biggest threat to women. Thing is, that's not the entertaining bit. The entertaining bit is your solution to the problem. You imply that women should stop dating men altogether and that women are basically insane for going out with men in the first place even though they unfortunately have to (for purposes of continuing the species). Yeah it is unfortunate. Know what else is unfortunate? That fact that instead of giving women the respect they deserve by highlighting that MEN should change their behaviour you put the responsibility upon the victim to fix the problem.
If a lightbulb is blown you don’t make people wear night vision goggles. Sunlight and candles are also only a temporary fix. So you get a new light bulb and you change it and then the problem is solved… until the light bulb blows again. This is because changing the lightbulb is essentially the best way to fix the problem. Nothing beats fixing the problem at the source.
Men are the source, because as you said, men are the threat.
You said in your routine:
‘But women still think “yeah I’ll go out with you alone at night”.
What are you nuts?
“I’ll get in your car with you with my little shoulders. Hi where are we going?”
To your death statistically.’
What are you nuts?
“I’ll get in your car with you with my little shoulders. Hi where are we going?”
To your death statistically.’
How come you think women are the crazy ones for going out with men and not men being the crazy ones for statistically leading women to their death? What you think it’s something you should be proud of? Clearly you aren’t proud of it otherwise you wouldn’t suggest women should stop dating men. It’s apparent you think the situation is ridiculous. And that’s because it is.
It’s fucking ridiculous that you can acknowledge that men are the biggest threat to women and not once say “Hey guys get your shit together we fucking suck!” Instead it’s all “Hey ladies you’re fucking crazy get your shit together because we ain’t.”
Men like you are the biggest threat to women because you add to a wider media culture that sees women as the problem rather than men. The problem is that women aren’t crazy, the problem is that men won’t up their game and fucking take responsibility for their shitty actions.
So it’d be great if next time you make an observation like this one you act like a positive role model for men. You could provide a solution that acknowledges women are not the crazy ones and that men are guilty of having the privilege and power to deny women the right to challenge this in the first place. Or you could simply just say “There is no greater threat to women than men... and this needs to change.”
Just a thought.
From,
Ol Andy
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ReplyDeleteI decided to respond to this post at "fucking ridiculous". I encourage you to re-watch, although I'm sure you have many times, this video, but this time not as a feminist, not as an evaluator of every statement, making sure it speaks for YOUR agenda, but for what it is, a Louis CK stand up joke. He shares his ideas, which are precious and more often than not valuable, not as a teacher, not as a role model for anybody, as a standup comedian. He's not after pleasing every individual's ear, and it's selfish to see him like that.His comedy is successful because it is obscene, no one expects to hear 80% of what he says. When he describes a girl getting into a car and going to her death, its for the sake of exaggeration. Yes there are asshole guys and yes guys tend to harm women more than women harm men, but that doesnt mean Louis wants to engage in all those discussions.And basically if I were to answer to exactly what you want him to have said, I dont think I agree. Yea he says guys are crazy, women are "victims", guys have the responsibility of their craziness, women of choosing them.Cuz what you suggest is sort of going the other way, "oh Im a princess whoever dates me should have their shit together." No, people sometimes dont, both women and men, and its okay for all kinds of people to exist, and it's up to everyone individually who they choose to associate themselves with. I'm with you, always look for the message, but dont get too caught up in who you are and what you expect to hear along the way because it is a joke and it is a brilliant comedian, a diamond really. Plus, and I'm closing with this, the message IS THERE. That's what the joke is about, guys treating women bad. You dont need someone to spell it out and suggest solutions, it's not an essay its standup. If you're intelligent enough you catch it, you change it on your own. If you're dumb then whatever anyone's gonna say is not really making any difference.
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